Started using the car's air conditioning last week here in Northern California. Dining on the patio and time to get the big umbrella up for the season.
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Winter is coming...
by Tiktaalik init was only low 20s (c) here in southern australia.
after weeks of long hot days, it looks like the cold is on the way.
in an unrelated matter - it's only 11 days till game of thrones season 3 begins.
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VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA | The Age newspaper | March 16, 2013 | Slamming the Door on Jehovah's Witnesses
by jwleaks inthe age newspaper | fairfax media | saturday, march 16, 2013. http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/slamming-the-door-on-jehovah-20130315-2g6fo.html.
slamming the door on jehovah's witnesses.
she is an apostate, which sounds like a strange disease, and in many ways it is.
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new member- my story
by AndDontCallMeShirley in"that which can be asserted without evidence, can.
be dismissed without evidence.
" - christopher hitchens.
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Excellent post Surely.
"And this is the way the current generation stays, eventually dying of old age, and a new generation gets suckered in: cognitive dissonance and a brain that has been in suspended animation due to an official ban on critical thinking."
So very sad yet true.
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Last words
by Londo111 ini happened to be on facebook today, when in the message section, i see on the left a column of the latest private correspondences with various folks.
one is from bex, a former jw in my area who passed away on 12/31.
dated from 8/10, her last words to me were, fade well.. .
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Wikiquotes says it's probably apocryphal, but I've always enjoyed these "last words" erroneously attributed to Pancho Villa:
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
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JW bumper stickers
by innerpeace inso my husband (who was never a jw) saw a christian bumper sticker today and asked me if the witnesses have any.
i said no (not that i know of anyway) so here are a few he came up with.. 'honk if you're a zombie'.
'my other car is noah's ark'.
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A Circuit Overseer we had about 10 years ago had a license plate frame that said:
Happiness Is Being A Pioneer
Sorry for killing the mood in here.
Excellent thread until now.
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Candace Conti: WTS Opening Appellate Brief Due Tomorrow
by DNCall in.
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unless they get another extension, or armageddon comes first..
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Getting my popcorn ready.
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At what age do most or many JWs kids count as "publisher?"
by Gayle inwhat is considered as a requirement for them now-a-days to turn in their time as a "publisher?
" among born-in, how young were you?
my parents became jws when i was 9 yrs old.
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5. Had to keep up with my older siblings.
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What will happen if I say no
by label licker ini have not been going to the meetings for just over nine months and was wondering what to say when an elder asked am i coming back.
if i say no will i get df'd?
we have not gotton any phonecalls or visits but a text message asking if we are coming back.
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Text him this reply: "brb"
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My terminally ill friend will read this; please offer your love and support.
by compound complex indear friends:.
forty-five years ago i was out in service with an elder, and we came upon a house where the owners kindly received us.
this was not so unusual as the family was jehovah's witnesses.
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Wishing you strength on the road ahead Mike.
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Julia's Inquisition - Two elders, the full version! I want you all to see this.
by Julia Orwell insorry it's gonna be long winded.
i've done my best to reconstruct from memory.
my husband was next to me the whole time.
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Hi there Julia.
I agree with yourmomma's opinion above and here's a bit more to consider if you care to read it.
Given the right circumstances, virtually every rational, moral person will "lie". The only disagreement I have with the WT policy on "lying" is semantics.
The WT says that it is ALWAYS wrong to lie. Therefore, in order for a JW to not tell the Nazis where the Bibles are hidden, the WT comes up with an unothodox definition of the word "lie". They say that it's not lying to withhold the truth from someone who isn't "entitled" to know the information.
I hate to admit it, but I actually agree with most of the Watchtower's policy on lying. There are only two key differences between my approach and the Watchtower's.
1. The definition of "lie". I think it's best to try to use language accurately to help facilitate good communication. Most people would probably agree with these two dictionary definitions:
*to make an untrue statement with the intent to deceive
*to create a false or misleading impression
So when the JW tells the Nazi Gestapo officers that they don't know where the Bibles and Watchtowers are, most people would call that a lie. It's a morally justifiable lie, but still a lie. But since JWs tend to prefer their world view in black and white, they redefine "lie" so that they can in good conscience say that they didn't lie.
2. What circumstances does it take to make a lie morally justified?
It would be a pretty rare person who would feel morally obligated to tell the Nazis that the Jews are in the attic. Now it's just a big gray slippery slide to where you individually draw the line as to what circumstances would justify lying.
Here's my justification for lying to the elders, should that showdown ever occur. The Watchtower has created a system that violates a basic human need: access to family and/or friends. Therefore, I would have zero moral compunction in telling the Watchtower's company men what they want to hear.
If you feel that you are morally obligated to continue to refuse to answer their "loyalty oath" question, it will very likely result in you eventually getting DFed, IMO.
Just my $.02 for your consideration.
You're the one who has to live with the fallout, not us.All the best to you and your husband,
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